Reddit is deleting the whole #Pizzagate Subreddit today at 4pm – Here are a few important arguments for furthering the investigation…


“Posting this may be utterly pointless, or too sentimental, or too verbose, or just run-of-the-mill stupid, so take it for whatever it’s worth.

I thought this year would leave me more cynical than I’ve ever been, with even less trust in other people than I’ve previously had, feeling not only lost and out-of-place but as though there were no better alternative, alienated from even some of my close friends/family, tired, confused, isolated, and with even my hitherto stable faith in art and philosophy more shaken than I could admit to myself. This last month or so, though, has changed that. It seems absurd to say that an online investigation into pizza and pedophilia could do anything but make things worse, which, I suppose, it in many ways has, but it’s also given me this weird, grim, but kind of exhilarating sense of vindication. It has something to do with seeing society concern itself with fundamental ethical/epistemological issues, and take them seriously. It has something to do with recognizing that I hadn’t taken those issues anywhere near as seriously as I thought I had or as I ought to do. It has something to do with seeing people treat truth as not only real but worth pursuing for itself. It has something to do with seeing actual, even if baffling and often misguided, change. It has something to do with honesty, as backward as it seems to talk about honesty in this so-called “post-factual” year. But the internet has become maybe the most honest form of human expression yet, I think. It’s a record of all our lies, inane questions, horrifying inclinations, layers of superficiality, loneliness, stupidity, actual, habitual and willful evil, but also of whatever amount of good it is we’ve done. It gives me an inkling of compassion for and understanding of other people. Typically I can either disdain people in general because I feel oh-so far above them, or disdain people in general out of spite for their being so much better than me; this is a nice reminder that there is an alternative perspective. If that makes any sense.

More to the point, seeing how relentlessly and thoughtfully people on here are digging into this issue is completely incredible, despite the missteps. Regardless of what the truth really is, this investigation is fully worthwhile. The goal is the truth, whatever that is, and the more certain we are of it, the better. Aristotle wrote entire books just to define the terms he would use in discussing the most basic metaphysical ideas, and he was absolutely right to do so. If it turns out, at the end of the day, that you can say with absolute certainty that the Podestas/Clintons/etc./whatever are actually the most virtuous and unrelated-to-pedophelia people on earth, and that you’re willing to spend an entire week detailing exactly why that is the case, that’ll be a good thing.

I’ll leave you with a selection from good old Les Miserables:

Message from Reddit:

Hey All–

“We wanted to let you know that after several long discussions on our end we are unable to keep your community open after today. This is because we’re still seeing PII of private individuals continually posted on your subreddit and it’s not being removed by moderators after multiple warnings and discussions with your team. We recognize that you feel this is an important investigation, however as it has become clear that this community is unable to stay within our sitewide rules we will be banning the subreddit at 4:00 PM PST.”

I wrote this message on that post:

I plan to continue sharing any and all relevant information on my personal blog.

I plan to continue shouting as long as I can. As someone who was molested, raped, sold for sex, and has spent the past fifteen years healing all of the trauma, it is the least I can do for my little friends.

If I suddenly go quiet, please scream it out. I am NOT suicidal (although I have been hospitalized for suicidal depression three times)

I use my own name and identify my location with each post.

Come and get me bastards, if you dare.


A message from an anonymous journalist:

Edit: this is a throw-away account, I will not be using it further nor answering any questions
Edit2: impossible to get such a piece passed my editor, so I’m leaving it here for people to distribute (send it to journos if you have the emails, it will silently resonate)
We are told the work on /r/Pizzagate (and other message boards) is illegitimate because people are rushing to conclusions, or because they are being paranoid, or partisan (despite so many of different political complexions provably working together). The subtitle here of course is that the State is solely legitimate to suspect and investigate crimes.
But what if the State itself is, in a systemic way, responsible for said crimes? It wouldn’t be a first; after all, democide (death by government, a word surprisingly absent from conversations) was the first cause of non-natural deaths in the 20th century. Whether one is from the right, left, or center, one cannot deny government is the number one abuser, enslaver and serial-killer in History. We may honestly disagree on the ways to eradicate the phenomenon, or we may regret that fact, but we cannot deny it.
So, if the State itself is committing crimes, it is the people’s sovereign and sacred duty to expose it. Those who understand this truth best tend to become journalists. At least, that’s what drove me to the profession.
Now specifically on this work. First, there is context; institutional child abuse is already a common-knowledge phenomenon. From the Presidio affair to Jimmy Saville and the BBC, or from the Vatican’s historic involvement in covering-up pedophilia to US legislators’ documented trips on the “Lolita Express”, from the questions still surrounding Dutroux to the Hampstead doubts, the scourge has been featured in the news, movies, documentaries, art work. There have also been many policymakers, prosecutors, investigators and victims denouncing the very phenomenon; see for example British MP John Mann passionate speech before Parliament on the subject last year, or the extensive report by former undercover Interpol agent (Bannon). Indeed it is a secret de Polichinelle. So the only possible disagreement can be on the scale and systemicity of the phenomenon.
To honestly decide whether that’s what we are seeing in the Podesta emails, please have a look at this one example. Look at the invitation at the end of the thread. Ms Luzzatto is inviting people (among which are John and Mary Podesta) to a farm in Lovettsville. This is what she says:
We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility. Bonnie will be Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in that pool for sure.
Impossible, you say? They couldn’t possibly be speaking about abusing the children! After all, what step-grandmother would offer three innocent children up for group abuse?
This is how invitee Drew Littman answers the invitation:
I’ve never had an affair, so I pass the Walter Jones test.
If you aren’t aware, Walter B. Jones has for 20 years been the U.S. Representative for North Carolina’s 3rd congressional district; in DC he’s regarded as the absurd caricature of a do-gooder, i.e. he is a noble man indeed.
Agreed, if that example was the only one, one could dismiss it as baroque misinterpretation. But there’s more, much more. Let’s not even get into the handkerchiefs and codewords – even though “cheese pizza” is a known euphemism for “child porn” (and there are abundant examples in the Podesta emails where that term is used in very strange and out-of-context manners).
How about the fact that John and Tony Podesta are old friends of Jeffery Epstein, Dennis Hastert and Clement Freud, three convicted child molesters? Who has so many child rapists as friends? Who stays friends with child rapists after they’re exposed and convicted?
How about the Katy Grannan photos plastered around the Podestas’ mansion, depicting naked teenagers?
How about Tony Podesta writing he’s “very good and a little wired” from being seated next to “the kids” on an airplane?
How about the underground vault on the Podestas’ property which admittedly allows them to watch “very complicated video pieces”?
If you are feeling ill-at-ease, that reaction is honorable. And the worse thing is you haven’t yet seen much. But for more, you’ll have to look for it. Indeed one might be breaking statutory laws by linking to some of the clues Internet sleuths have found in the past three weeks.
For example, did you know James Alefantis, listed 49th “most influential” person in DC by GQ, chef and White House regular, boyfriend of David Brock, owner of Comet Ping Pong, had an Instagram account filled with references to and depictions of child abuse and torture? Indeed it’s not just the frescoes in his restaurant or the “artists” he hosts there; it’s not even the fact his menu and the logos of three other iconic businesses next door feature FBI-recognized pedophilia symbols. No, this is about his own posts, pictures, comments and friends on social media. Again, you’ll have to look it up for yourself. It is hardly ambiguous. Indeed it is Alefantis who puts the pizza in #Pizzagate.
If that surprises you, did you know Arun Rao was caught “liking” several of Alefantis’ creepiest toddler Instagram posts? Again, that could be dismissed – only there’s all this context, and the fact Mr Rao is a Assistant US attorney, and charged with prosecuting child pornography and abuse.
And if you’re still not distinguishing the pattern, did you know that Laura Silsby (Gayler), the woman caught trying to smuggle thirty-three children out of Haiti (a country where the Clinton Foundation isn’t without controversy), whose release from jail became a personal matter for Ms Clinton, thereafter became an associate of MyStateUSA, which changed its name to AlertSense, and which is the one providing the technology to issue Amber Alerts?
Enough already. If anything I have proven the legitimacy of the following question:
Is there a systemic pedophilia problem in Washington DC, as we already suspect there is one in Hollywood?
In terms of national systemicity, the statistics are eloquent. The International Centre for Missing Children (ICMEC) estimates that 8 million children are reported missing each year around the world. Of that number, according to U.S. Department of Justice research, an estimated 800,000 children will go missing in the United States alone — a rate of over 2’000 missing children each day — with 466,949 of those cases entered into the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database in 2014. With a current child population (aged 0 – 17) of around 74 million in the United States, the U.S. Department of Justice figures equate to around 1 child in every 92 going missing in the United States each year.
This looks like a systemic problem indeed. Childhood disappearances outnumber cancer deaths in the United States by one third.
Therefore, given the sheer amount of leaked emails, and the suspected phenomenon’s scale and repartition, it is likely the data dumps (Podesta and other Wikileaks, Guccifer 1/2, DNCLeaks, etc.) provide some clue to the problem. Therefore, they should be investigated thoroughly under than particular lens, and suspicions need to be corroborated with other (and previously) known facts.
So, my fellow journalists, why aren’t you all looking into this? Is it easy for you to dismiss it as confirmation bias?
I’m not going to answer the question for you. At least hop on the bandwagon: this is coming out with or without your help. But remember some moments are defining, in one’s career, for one’s conscience.
I’ll conclude with two excerpts of the Munich Declaration of the Duties and Rights of Journalists (kind of our own Hippocratic Oath).
The responsibility of journalists vis-a-vis the public has precedence over any other responsibility, in particular towards their employers and the public power.
[A journalist’s duties include] respecting the truth no matter what consequences it may bring about to him, … defending the freedom of information, of commentaries and of criticism, [and] not suppressing essential information.
… and one question:
If this doesn’t matter, what does?

Another great series of questions

There is an emerging story here that goes far beyond pizza, so I will try to pull the thread together and tell you what the rest of the world wants to tell us. Pizza is the tip of the iceberg. It doesn’t matter what pasta means or whether Clinton is involved specifically.

Here are the questions you should be asking yourself:

Human trafficking involves almost a million smuggled children per year. How do these organizations stick around? Are they run by expert cryptographers, somehow managing to smuggle millions of live human beings without leaving a digital fingerprint, evading the NSA’s reach? (Hint: no)

How many intelligence agencies are there in the world? How do human traffickers manage to evade all of them? (Hint: they don’t)

What sorts of people are able to afford children? If you are rich enough to buy multiple children, are you the sort of person who is likely to be able to donate to politicians? (Hint: yes)


Q: How do large-scale bad things get past the NSA? A: They don’t. Q: Why are they still around then? A: [deleted]

Other points of departure include:

Clinton’s email server was hacked by every government in the world… except the NSA?

Every politician routinely has a private email server to conduct “unofficial business”… and the NSA missed it?

Clinton deleted her emails… and the NSA doesn’t have them?

The President of the United States had a private email server… and the NSA was OK with this?


Do you understand? These are fairy tales.

So now I ask: other than human trafficking, what other non-government-sanctioned “large-scale bad things?” How do THEY manage to stick around?

An analysis of the NYT story

[EDIT: Quentin Hardy, the Assistant Tech Editor of the NY Times, who supposedly gets paid to do the job I/we generously did for him in this post, changed his Twitter Avi to a Pizza Hut sign after this article was published yesterday. Let him know that /r/pizzagate appreciates his quality journalism!]
The purpose of this thread is to pick apart the litany of factual errors, mischaracterizations, and fallacies that appeared in Cecilia Kang’s article, “Fact Check: This Pizzeria Is Not A Child Trafficking Site” (New York Times, Nov. 21, 2016). Here’s a link:
Please do not post wild speculation and RUMINT in this thread. The goal here is to build an objective case that the editorial staff of the NY Times is guilty of some of the very same “fake news” tactics it’s currently decrying. I’m going to list every factually problematic excerpt I found. Feel free to add any other errors below.
1) “All of them alleged something that made Mr. Alefantis’s jaw drop: that Comet Ping Pong was the home base of a child abuse ring led by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief, John D. Podesta.”
STRAW-MAN ARGUMENT: Kang claims (no sources sited) that online investigators allege that the child abuse ring is “led by Hillary Clinton and John D. Podesta”. I’ve seen hundreds of threads on reddit and 4/8chan, and I’ve seen very few people push the argument, that HRC and John Podesta are the “leaders” of anything. The vast majority of speculation so far has asserted that HRC and the Podestas are INVOLVED in a child abuse ring. This may seem like quibbling over semantics but to the normal NYT reader, “led by” is a far more extreme – and unbelievable – allegation than “involved in”. Right off the bat, Kang insinuates without any evidence or quotes that the entire open-source investigation sound like a mob of hyperbolic, delusional conspiracy theorists.
2) “He [Alefantis] found dozens of made-up articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms. The articles appeared on Facebook and on websites such as The New Nationalist and The Vigilant Citizen, with one headline blaring: “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite. None of it was true.”
STRAW-MAN: Kang’s use of sources in this passage is evasive, and also scrambles the chronology of events in the #Pizzagate scandal. When she mentions “dozens of made-up articles”, she provides no specific examples or hyperlinks. Furthermore, she goes on to imply that ALL of these articles specifically identify Hillary Clinton as the individual who is going around personally kidnapping children. Any sane person would doubt such a story – but of course, that’s not what the vast aggregate of investigators is claiming at all. Once again, Kang appears to be deliberately exaggerating and over-simplifying the allegations of Pizzagate in order to make its propagators look unserious.
MISLEADING BY OMISSION: Throughout the entire piece, Kang brings up ZERO historical examples of proven underage sex-trafficking rings that served (and were protected by) a network of rich and powerful elites. While neglecting to mention the Franklin Scandal, the Praesidio Scandal, or the Finders is not surprising (all three stories have been largely ignored by the NYT for decades), it is surprising that no mention is made of confirmed pedophile scandals tied to the Catholic Church (Spotlight won Best Picture last year ffs!), BBC host Jimmy Savile, or Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky. There is also no mention of the Hollywood pedophilia ring allegations that have grabbed major headlines in the US over the past several years. By omitting all of these historical events and the completely justifiable public interest they have generated online, Kang provides no context for what motivates Pizzagate investigators beyond paranoia and a deep but vague gullibility to “fake news”.
MISLEADING CHRONOLOGY: Kang commits a sleight-of-hand when she reports that Alefantis “looked online to unravel the accusations” right after he and his staff started receiving hate messages. Comet Ping Pong was first stumbled upon in the wee hours of November 4th. Alefantis’ instagram and Facebook accounts started getting threatening messages within hours from overzealous idiots on 4chan.
The Vigilant Citizen article that Kang cites was posted on November 15th, ELEVEN DAYS after Alefantis was first “exposed” on 4chan and reddit. Thus, there’s no way that Alefantis did a quick google search on November 4th and found the VC article.
If Kang had done a simple google search, she would’ve seen that on November 6th (within 48 hours of exposure), Washington City Paper published “Alt Right Conspiracy Theorists Obsess Over Comet Ping Pong”, featuring interviews with “Pizza Party Ben” and James Alefantis:
^ Though the tone of this article is skeptical, it at least mentions Jeffrey Epstein, Correct the Record, and the potential use of “pizza” as a codeword for child sex in the Podesta Emails. The NYT article mentions none of these things, and their absence further warps the narrative to make pizzagate investigators look insane.
Her scrambling of the chronology helps morph the narrative so that it reinforces the “Fake News” meme currently being spread by the establishment media. This argument is what’s fake. #PizzaGate did not spring out of “fake news”, but social media forums.
3) “Mr. Alefantis’s experience shows it is not just politicians and internet companies that are grappling with the fake news fallout. He, his staff and friends have become a new kind of private citizen bull’s-eye for the purveyors of false articles and their believers. For more than two weeks, they have struggled to deal with the abusive social media comments and to protect photos of their own children, which were used in the false articles as evidence that the pizza restaurant was running a pedophilia ring.”
MISCHARACTERIZATION/NO EVIDENCE: James Alefantis has no children. Most of the other Comet employees on instagram who post disturbing content (workinonmahnightcheese, Amanda Kleinman, and others) do not have children either. Furthermore, the evidence from instagram was not initially obtained or spread via “false news articles” but posted directly on 4/8chan and Reddit forums by a variety of anonymous users. It’s interesting that Kang doesn’t provide a links or screenshot of the many sexually suggestive and/or ultraviolent instagram pictures that were found on the accounts of Alefantis and his employees. I can fully understand not linking to any of the pictures featuring children (legal/ethical issues galore), but what about the other disturbing photos that feature overtly bizarre sexual/violent content? Did Kang not see the child coffin, the stacks of Euros and date rape drugs, the #killroom? Once again, the NYT Reader is expected to simply take Kang’s word for it, and is given no opportunity to examine any of the “evidence” for themselves.
4) “The eatery, which seats 120, is a mash-up of red and white checkered tablecloths and modernist murals and paintings from friends of Mr. Alefantis.”
MISCHARACTERIZATION BY OMISSION: Kang gives no description of what those “modernist” murals and paintings are. Most NYT readers have no objection to modernist murals – who would? But if she did describe them, she would have to acknowledge that one of the murals features happy, loving adults cradling severed heads. Further research verified that the painter of the mural has multiple works featuring people cradling severed heads: source: here’s another painting by same artist:
But to Kang, the adjective “modernist” suffices. This is deliberately misleading. Nobody is saying that these paintings “prove” anything, but why go out of your way to describe them as benign and “modernist”?
5) “Days before the election, users on the online message board 4chan noticed that one of Mr. Podesta’s emails contained communications with Mr. Alefantis discussing a fund-raiser for Mrs. Clinton. The 4Chan users immediately speculated about the links between Comet Ping Pong and the Democratic Party. Some posited the restaurant was part of a larger Democratic child trafficking ring, which was a theory long held by some conservative blogs.”
OVERSIMPLIFICATION, NO SOURCES CITED: 4chan was the first to discover weird references to “pizza” in Podesta’s emails. That led to someone suggesting that “pizza” was a codeword for either child porn or children. However, that was preceded by a reddit post that was retweeted by Wikileaks about Hillary Clinton’s connection to Laura Silsby, an American woman arrested for attempted child trafficking in Haiti. (Haiti is mentioned zero times in this article, despite it being one of the strongest leads to come out of #PizzaGate.)
Keep in mind (because Kang doesn’t) that all this was also happening against the backdrop of the #SpiritCooking revelations, as well as several CIA-linked public figures (Steve Pieczenik, Erik Prince) telling alternative rightwing media outlets (Breitbart, Infowars) that the evidence found on Anthony Weiner’s computer related, in part, to child trafficking networks and horrible sex crimes against children. It’s unclear if these are the news sites Kang is referring to when she constantly mentions “Fake News”, but the fact that she never clarifies the matter is problematic.
Whether one believes these sources or not, several shadowy insiders were publicly leaking (supposedly accurate) intel about Clinton ties to human trafficking that just so happened to line up with 4chan and Reddit stumbling upon “Spirit Cooking” and “Pizza” in the Wikileaks emails. (Come to think of it, there’s not one mention of “Spirit Cooking” in this entire piece, even though it was another one of the catalyzing incidents that led directly to Pizzagate – #SpiritCooking even trended on Twitter in the final week of the election.)
6) “Glen Caplin, a former campaign official for Mrs. Clinton, did not comment directly about Comet Ping Pong but said, “WikiLeaks has spawned several conspiracy theories that have been independently debunked.” Mr. Podesta did not respond to requests for comment.”
NO EVIDENCE/APPEAL TO AUTHORITY: Kang doesn’t elaborate on Caplin’s vague claim that “several conspiracy theories” from Wikileaks have been “independently debunked”. No evidence is provided, and no follow-up questions are asked, but for the record, no one has successfully challenged the authenticity of the emails that Wikileaks has released thus far. Once again, the reader is simply expected to take a Clinton campaign spokesperson at their (brief, evasive) word.
7) “Most troubling for Mr. Alefantis and staff has been the use of children’s images, pilfered from the restaurant’s social media pages and the personal accounts of friends who had “liked” Comet Ping Pong online. Those photos have been used across dozens of websites. Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution, have hired lawyers to get the photos removed.”
MISLEADING LANGUAGE: Kang makes it sound like pizzagaters took pictures of children off of Comet Pizza’s official pages, and off random people who merely “liked” official Comet Ping Pong posts. This is false. The vast majority of the disturbing images were “pilfered” from James Alefantis’s personal, public Instagram account. The others were from several accounts of his employees and associates, all of whom do not have children of their own. The “Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution…” don’t bother to give even an anonymous quote. Who are they? Surprisingly, nobody has figured it out. I recall at least 5 different infants and children on James’ instagram alone. None of the supposed “parents” of the pictured children have – as of now, Nov. 22 – been identified via social media research.
Kang is correct that 4chan users searched through the accounts of everyone who “liked” those creepy baby photographs – but they didn’t find a single parent. Instead, they found Assistant US Attorney Arun G. Rao, whose jurisdiction in southern Maryland covers child pornography and racketeering cases. Funny how that didn’t make it in.
I could pick apart more but I’m fading fast. It should be clear to all by this point that the establishment media is not here to defend you from the scourge of “Fake News”.

Monica Petersen died in Haiti on November 13th.
She was previously a research intern at the Laboratory to Combat Human Trafficking (LCHT) and also was a Research Fellow and Assistant Director at the Human Trafficking Center (HTC). She also served on the Colorado Human Trafficking Council’s Data & Research Task Force.
Both LCHT and HTC announced her passing on Facebook:

It was not immediately clear under what circumstances she died, and this remains so to this day. As of today, Nov. 22nd, the family has not received Monica’s body. Although the family held a Memorial Service on Friday, Nov. 18th, there was no proper funeral/burial for Monica. The family is relying on information coming out Haiti and has not had the chance to conduct a proper autopsy in the US.
Friends of Monica have made mentions and suggestions that they are in the dark as far as finding out what happened, and some alluded to Monica’s death being considered a suicide, while others say she was murdered:

Monica goes to Haiti
On August 15, 2015, Monica announced her plan to visit Haiti to conduct research on human trafficking:
And she has lived there since:
After several weeks, Monica discovers corruption in Haiti involving the Clintons and people/entities related to them, and focuses her research on Hillary Clinton from that moment on:
On January 3rd, 2016, Monica shared with her friend Bella some of findings based on her field work in Haiti thus far. By this time she had already become aware corruption by the Clintons in Haiti (“starts to connect the dots on what I already suspected”). In fact, she was getting ready to dive full time: “Ms. Clinton has corrupt & dirty business to finish in Haiti … This is the theory my master’s thesis puts forth… this is modern structural slavery”. Bella re-shared this post by Monica to a Facebook group she belonged to:
In that same post, Monica also links to this blog post discussing similar claims:
The day after, on January 4th, 2016, Monica again shared with her friend Bella some more of her findings: “But the real significance of this scandal for me, I know you feel me Bella, is the link to contemporary slavery and trafficking. I can’t say to what extent, but there is human trafficking happening through the Clinton’s Caraol Complex.”:
Monica has been researching human trafficking for a long time.
She wrote this blog post in 2014: Root Causes and Contradictions of the Displaced Youth along the U.S./Mexico Border:

She testified along with Prof. Claude d’Estree in front of the Colorado-Senate Committee on human trafficking matters:

She gave presentations in the field of human trafficking:

Prof. Claude d’Estree’s comments
Monica’s memorial service was streamed live on Nov. 18th and covered live here: /r/The_Donald/comments/5dowzr/new_info_monica_petersen_died_mysteriously_in/
Her boss/professor Claude d’Estree said (beginning 39:30 mark of the stream):
“(She) decided to take on one of the demagogues in the field of human trafficking.”

“Produced a 110-page analysis of human trafficking in Haiti – 2 years of research.”

“We were looking for someone who was smart enough and maybe brave enough to publish her work”

“I will continue to seek out and publish it for her”

“We are in a state of shock. We may never know what exactly happened to her”

Also, I am not suggesting anything, but for the sake of completeness, I should mention that Claude d’Estree worked in the US Attorney’s office on behalf of DynCorp between 1999-2002:
I have been contacted by 3 different people all claiming to be good friends with Monica with the sole purpose of trying to discredit the link to the Clintons. They mostly did so by attacking Bella, while ignoring the fact that she simply shared these posts 10 MONTHS AGO with no agenda other than to spread the word to her friends in a small Facebook group. They claim now that Bella is seeking fame, yet the exact opposite is true – Bella is trying to distance herself as much as possible from all this.
Those 3 people seem very adamant in conveying the fact that they know for a fact Monica’s death is not related to her research activity in Haiti. Yet, at the same time, admit that the family has NOT EVEN SEEN Monica’s body.

4 Responses to “Reddit is deleting the whole #Pizzagate Subreddit today at 4pm – Here are a few important arguments for furthering the investigation…”
  1. PizzaAF says:

    Thanks for the shares. Literally a few hours before Reddit shut down /r/pizzagate I created a safe space for case files at
    It’s a matter of time IMHO before voat kicks us off and at least with this host I made I can fight to keep it on.


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